The Cobra Predator Turbine Powered Homebuilt Helicopter Engine History

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APU Turbines For Homebuilt Kit Aircraft/Helicopters

A Turbine Powered Kitfox

ARTICLE DATE: February 1992


How would you like to put an engine in your homebuilt which would run for 2000 hours easy, weigh about the same as a Rotax, and produce as much power as a much heavier Lycoming? You’d want to know where to sign up, right? Thats exactly what they did at Cobra Helicopters with their Cobra Predator.

I am talking about turbines, of course, and the day when they’re standard equipment on homebuilts may be just around the corner. Jim Gordon, of Micro Aviation, in Noblesville, Indiana, has got turbines coming out of his ears, and he thinks homebuilts would be a better place for them.

cobra predator helicopter turbine engine

It’s not a new idea; tinkerers and engineers have tried to put a turbine in just about every type of flying thing you can think of. Small planes have been somewhat an exception to the rule, not because the technology is not applicable to them — it is! — but because the turbines were just never widely available.

There have been a few turbine-powered lightplanes: In the 1960s, the Cessna 206 and the Mooney each had STCs for turbine installations; the CIA had a turbine put in the Helicopter Courier for work in Vietnam; and the Beechcraft T-34 had a turbine version, too.

Cobra Predator Helicopter Leads The Way

In fact, if you read the January issue of Sport Pilot Hot Kits & Homebuilts, you saw the article about the COBRA Predator turbine-powered homebuilt helicopter. Everyone knows that, for nearly all applications, a turbine is the best power source for a helicopter.

That’s because they possess a high power-to-weight ratio, they’re heat-tolerant, and they’re easy to govern to produce a constant propeller speed. The Cobra Predator has flown successfully and, at this point, is racking up the hours with its 95 hp turbine engine installed. COBRA, by the way, got the idea and the APUs from Gordon. Auxiliary power units have been around for decades.

95 shp solar turbine cobra predator helicopter

This 95 hp Solar turbine weighs considerably less than a piston engine of equal power. Additionally, the engine has an estimated TBO of over 2000 hours.

They are used for a wide variety of aviation, military, and industrial jobs, everything from loading grain from hopper cars into grain elevators, to jump-starting the huge jet engines of commercial airliners. Anyway, back in 1984, Gordon got wind of government-surplus turbines floating around at affordable prices, and tracked them down.

solar turbine compressor blades

He bought a fairly large number of them and has been working with them ever since. Some of the units he found were for low-power applications, and some were for big jobs. They range in power from 60 hp to 8000 hp (the big ones are rebuilt C-130 engines).

The units which hold the most promise for homebuilt aviation, however, are probably the 95 hp Solar T-65 turbines, which were originally used as hydraulic units in Chinook CH-47 military helicopters. This is the unit which COBRA installed in their Mustang Predator helicopter.

EDITOR: The simple Cobra Predator helicopter turbine installation consists of the APU running through a reduction drive, then via in-line shaft through a centrifugal clutch to a HTD cog belt pulley supported between two pillow block bearings. This then transfers the drive to the right angle gearbox constructed of a modified Speedway Quick Change (QC) rear end – as also now used on some Rotorway Exec turbine conversions.

Gordon is excited about the possibilities. This is the scenario. Let’s say you have a light homebuilt. Micro Aviation will supply you with a 95 hp turbine engine complete with engine instruments and a prop drive unit already installed for about $13,000. We think that will appeal to a lot of builders out there.

This very smooth-running setup would automatically compensate for altitude change and would be fitted with a variable-speed prop drive, one much simpler than that used on piston-powered engines as seen in the Cobra Predator Helicopter.

95 hp turbine cog belt drive helicopter

Gordon plans to offer the 95 hp Solar unit, complete with prop drive, for between $13,000 and $14,000. We think he’ll have a lot of customers for that product.

With the turbine-constant-speed prop, the pilot just dials in the prop speed and sits back and enjoys the ride. And, with ram air injection, the fuel economy, while nothing to write home about, would probably be between eight and twelve gallons per hour.

Of course, if you are interested in helicopters, the setup would be a little different. For rotorcraft, Micro provides the drive line, which hooks up to the rotor drive through the craft’s gearbox. You’d better believe that the possibility of affordable light turbines has caused some excitement in the homebuilt helicopter world.

In addition to COBRA and a few private individuals, at least one other helicopter company these days is quietly working on adapting the Solar unit to rotorcraft use, which sounds like a very natural combination to us – and the Cobra Predator is proof of it’s success.

kit helicopter solar turbine engine

Another customer of Micro is building a gyroplane powered by the unit. He is planning to kit and sell the design within the near future. Everyone wants to get in on the act. A particularly interesting project is currently under way by a company in San Jose.

This firm is putting the Solar engine in the Jim Bede-designed BD-5. The BD-5, as you may know, was the first-ever homebuilt jet. Although few were ever constructed because of the cost and lack of availability of engines, the introduction of the type, nevertheless, attracted a lot of interest.

cobra mustang predator homebuilt helicopter

Jim Gordon of Micro Aviation supplied the turbine used in the COBRA Mustang Predator homebuilt helicopter, the first homebuilt of any kind with a true turbine installed.

Now, with an affordable turboprop for the aircraft becoming available, perhaps the little bullet will get another chance at life. If company estimates of over 230 mph on 95 hp are accurate, you bet they will. According to Gordon, the APUs Micro sells are in good shape.

They are well-maintained units which had been replaced for newer, more powerful ones. Most of them had fewer than 300 hours on them (some as few as 40 or 50) and most are rated at more than 2000 hours TBO. In short, they have a lot of useful life left in them.

And these APUs are high-quality units. When new, they cost in excess of $100,000. Gordon got them for much less than that, of course, seeing that they are used. The government’s loss, in this one case anyway, could turn out to be the consumer’s gain.

solar apu turbine fuel pump

The other unit Gordon thinks people will be interested in is the 317 hp Allison C-18. This engine is very similar to the unit installed by one builder in the high-performance Cirrus VK-30. And it’s no wonder Gordon would be enthusiastic about the engine. The C-18 produces 317 hp at only 158 pounds.

Even slightly down-rated with a prop drive, it should still easily produce far better than one horsepower for every pound of weight. The prospects of such an engine being installed in a high-performance composite aircraft are exciting, to say the least.

Solar turbine check test tag

We had a lot of questions for Gordon about Micro’s engines, especially in the Cobra Predator helicopter, and to Gordon’s credit, he answered them all very honestly, and believe me, that is not always the case in this industry.

We asked him about the condition of the engines and he told us that they were all rebuilt engines with an average of 300 to 350 hours since overhaul. We also wanted to know about the availability of parts and services.

auxillary power unit apu turbines

Auxiliary power units, better known as APUs, have been around for decades, doing many different jobs. Recently, these units have begun to appear on the surplus market at affordable prices.

Gordon said that he offers, at a very good price, the only major parts which people will need to repair their turbines: the rotor shaft assembly ($1500), the gears for the planetary gearbox ($500), and the fuel control ($500).

And although these parts are not widely available, Gordon says that he has a good supply of them and that there are other firms who have them, as well.

Solar APU aircraft turbine

As far as service is concerned, Gordon says that Micro will provide complete overhaul service for the engines they sell. If these turbines prove extremely successful, Gordon says his company will manufacture turbines of this size.

He says that they already have the ability to make them; it’s just a matter of investing and gearing up for it. The turbines would sell for under $15,000 dollars each, he estimates. In case you were wondering, that’s a steal.

Solar T62 turbine

If you’re interested in the Solar or Allison turbine engines, Gordon says his company can help you out right now. They have both units in stock and ready to go.

If you’d like a ready-to-bolt-on 95 hp unit for a lightplane, or your Cobra Predator Helicopter, Gordon says that Micro is still in the process of building the prop drive unit, but that they are close to completing the job.

95 hp solar cobra predator helicopter turbine

Gordon plans to offer the 95 hp Solar unit, complete with prop drive, for between $13,000 and $14,000. We think he’ll have a lot of customers for that product.

Model and Type Titan T-62T-2A1 Turboshaft, 1-stage centrifugal compressor, annular combustor, 1-stage turbine.
Compressor Radial air intake between compressor and reduction gearbox. Single-entry impeller mounted back-to-back with turbine wheel on main shaft supported in
ball thrust and roller bearings. Pressure ratio 3.5:1 and air mass flow 1.6 lb/sec.
Combustor Reverse flow type. Six vaporizing burners at rear end.
Turbine Radial inflow type. Turbine wheel with integral vanes and exhaust in center. Turbine inlet temperature 1450 degrees F (788 degrees C), at 56,000 rpm.
Exhaust Fixed area outlet at rear of turbine.
Power Outlet Reduction gearbox at front of unit. Output shaft 6000 rpm.
Fuel System 1 Adel 70144 fuel pump 350 psi and Solar centrifugal type controls. Constant speed engine.
Ignition High-energy capacitor discharge ignition. One igniter.
Lubrication Return system. 15 psi. Integral oil tank.
Accessories Electric starter-generator, hydraulic, or hand crank.
Width 15.7 inches
Height 16.7 inches
Weight with Gearbox 76 lb. "wet"
Power Weight 1.25 shp/lb
Fuel Gasoline or JP-4
Fuel Consumption 0.10 Ib/hr
Oil Specifications MIL-0-6081, or L-7808
Oil Consumption 0.10 lb per hour
TBO: 2000 hours Horsepower Rating maximum 95 shp at 56,000 rpm at sea level
Application Airborne unit
The Cobra Predator Turbine Powered Homebuilt Helicopter Engine History
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The Cobra Predator Turbine Powered Homebuilt Helicopter Engine History
Little is known about the Cobra Predator homebuilt turbine powered kit helicopter, so it was with great fortune that we came across this article to share the history of the helicopters APU turbine engine.

2 Comments on "The Cobra Predator Turbine Powered Homebuilt Helicopter Engine History"

  1. Stephen Flynn | March 5, 2022 at 2:11 pm | Reply

    I am interested in a very small setup much like the JFS 100 starter but with compression. I want to use for as a running display and not for flight. How can I contact you to discuss this adventure?

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